Dekmax Blog: Utah Decks
News, Articles and Information from Dekmax
BSU Roof Top Garden
Jul 13, 2010
Boise State University Student Union Building has begun making some beautiful changes. The roof itself has had some water problems and they were exploring the idea of how to combine fixing the roof leaks with making a roof top garden that they could use to grow vegetables for use in the cafeteria.With the help of Upson Company in Caldwell, they were able to fix the leaking roof and have beautiful area for the gardens.
With this project Upson Company had some interesting but all to common issues. Initially the roof top was concrete with an expose aggregate surface, over time water had leaked through the aggregate and concrete. Coatings can be associated with or confused as a roofing product, they are only classified as, and some carry ICC approvals but only as traffic coatings. Here are some pictures of the resulting problems with the coatings used. The first one used (it appears there were two different ones used over time) was a combination of sand and a urethane type coating. The aggregate was a very uneven and rough surface and when it was torn up you can see where some areas simply did not adhere.
With both coatings the roof had become very thick and even though the two different coatings were bonded very well together the leaks soon continued. In some areas there were soft spots that you could feel with your feet, the bond had separated from the aggregate completely. At first glance it was difficult to determine how these coatings had failed. Perhaps it was the simple fact that it was a walking roof, there were pressures and weight being applied that exceeded the coatings capabilities.
This is a good example why you use trained, experienced, professionals. As you see here the coatings were completly removed down to the aggregate surface. Next step was to smooth out the aggregate so the membrane would have a good suraface to adhere to. Another consideration was the fact that this was to be a walking roof and appearance would be an important consideration as well. A smooth surface would also accomidate a visual change from a roof to a floor. This was important given the amount of traffic the new roof deck garden would be, this will become a focal point.
The sides had been brick with a few scuppers along the length.
It looked like the scusppers were anywhere from level to a reverse slope and did little to drain the water off the roof.
Again the guys at Upson Company had the right solutions.
Remove the exisiting scuppers and fab new ones that would assist in the proper water management.
Add three additional floor drains, these would be the primary drainage system and the scuppers would be the secondary.
It is a good practice to always have a secondary drainage system as a back up.
Here you can also see the walls were covered with plywood during the preperations and would be covered with Duradek
Not quite finished here, some trim will be added to the walls and around the doors but you can see the transformation form roof to floor looks good.
The planter boxes have been made and are sitting downstairs ready to be put into use.
I can't wait to see the finished project and get some feedback from the unniversity.
Investigate the system now not later!
Jun 10, 2010
We can certainly tell it the nice weather has arrived, everyone suddenly is looking to repair, replace, stain, paint or build a nice outdoor entertainment area.It is too bad that many will make some very avoidable mistakes that could cost them in the years to come. You can find some Home Owner tips at http://www.dekmax.com/ that are beneficial but here are a few more that you should be asking your contractor or look them up yourself.
1. How long has the product been around? If it is new (within the last ten years) there is a good chance they have been learning as they went and you want to be sure your not a part of that learning process. Look them up on line and investigate the product your looking into and if there has very been a defective recalls. Some big brands have had well documented problems yet consumers are still buying them and the problems are still occurring.
2. Make sure the manufacturer recommends the product for the manner that you will use it. There are dozens or more products for just about any job. With a little effort you can the truth. As an example there are some applications that we use a cement board (CBU) during installation. There are several really good brand names out there on the market that you can purchase at your local lumber supply. The catch is they do not all approve of use in an outdoor application. Your contractor probably doesn't know the answer either, but if you ask they will tell you they use it all the time and it does great. The problem here is that if your deck was to fail and a product that does not have a manufactures approvals was used that can be sticky situation and in our experience most times the home owner is the one paying for it. Ask the question and get the right answer or find out yourself do not assume.
3. We work with waterproofing and making use of all the space below the deck area. The cost of our materials installed is about the same as doing a composite but you get so much more out of it. Because we specialize in waterproofing there is a risk involved too. Water can do amazing things to your home when it gets into areas it shouldn't.
Of all the failure and problems we have investigated and fixed the causes fall into two categories
- The materials used were not intended to be used in the manner they were installed.
- The installation was done wrong.
Use the correct products with manufacturers approvals and installed by a trained professional.
Just a few days ago I had a home owner call and ask about putting a membrane on their deck, good idea. Then as we talked I asked what was on the deck and he asked the contractor (who was standing there) what they had just installed. OSB was used and we will not install on OSB because we know from experience that it will delaminate and make the surface look horrible. Anyway the home owner again asked the contractor and was told he knows somebody that will do it. The simple point is it doesn't matter what brand of membrane is used the OSB will delaminate and the home owner will not like the look. What is really sad is none of the membrane manufactures will even warranty the membrane when installed on OSB. I hope I am wrong but here is a case that there will be a failure, the home owner will not be happy and the contractor will say to bad, sorry and be gone.
Outdoor tile, done right.
May 17, 2010
Quite a while ago I attended a training class in Baltimore MD.
Duradek had offered a new product to market, Tiledek was supposed to be the answer to the confusion and lack of confidence when using tile outdoors.Knowing the way that Duradek does things I was very interested in this opportunity and hoped that it would offer our customers some solutions. In virtually every meeting I had with tile companies and tile setters all I heard was life is wonderful. "We have never had an issue doing tile outdoors" "We only use xxxx (brand) and it has always worked." I was hearing it yet on the flip side from the investigations being done with failed projects and the research that was done prior to Tiledek's development I was very hesitant to believe it.
It took a while and we finally decided we need some help. We were fortunate to locate a local person with more than twenty years of experience in the tile industry. After numerous discussions and meetings the truth started to come to light. What was really happening was a game of finger pointing and passing of blame when there was a failure and they are as common as I had thought. Armed with this information I began to dig a little deeper and have found some very interesting common threads. I would have to say the number one concern is that the manufacturers recommendations are not being taken into consideration. As an example; Tile is going to be installed over cement board (CBU) but all cement board is not the same. Some have manufacturers approval for use outdoors while others clearly state it is water and mildew resistant. While they do not make it clear use outdoors is not recommended or supported, it is being assumed by the contractors and you know what that means. Now we are in a game of "finger pointing" and to often the home owner is left with a mess, a very costly mess.
This issue reaches into all products being used in outdoor tile. It can be as simple as the owner choosing the tile without the basic knowledge of what will work. Tile manufacturer's will tell you what is approved, generally right on the tile display. If unsure ask the questions of the tile setter. "Is this tile approved for use outdoors? By the manufacturer?
Waterproofing is not an area to be playing games with. Done right it can seem like an easy thing but done wrong it can be a nightmare. What I have learned is the concern is over the appearance and little thought is given to what is under the tile. Here is where the problems begin. Once the surface is covered with tile it looks great! Soon it is forgotten, the problems are at work under the tile. Water will penetrate the tile and grout and search for a place to go. It make take some time, years even but it will continue to work and sooner or later you will find a failure.
Tiledek accomplishes eliminating the big risk factors.
1. Only trained dealers (applicators) are used so waterproofing becomes a focus rather then afterthought.
2. Tile setters are given specifications as to which products are to be used. No skimping.
3. Tiledek's warranty information is available with easy access on line -
http://www.duradek.com/_customelements/uploadedResources/Tiledek10yrWarrantygeneric.pdf
4. Decades of roofing experience has been applied to the use of tile and the result is the best of both worlds.
We will be continuing our focus on Tiledek in the coming weeks with some specific work being performed both in the Salt Lake area as well as the mountains.
Waterproof upper-level deck
Apr 29, 2010
Waterproof upper-level deck with waterproof membrane to protect room belowShell Busey, Special to Vancouver CourierPublished: Wednesday, April 07, 2010
Q: I have a tar and gravel roof and want to create a summer deck. Other than laying down new T&G plywood and fibreglass, is there another solution to finish the area to give me total water protection since there is a finished room under this area?
A: One of the most common methods of waterproofing an upper-level deck is to lay down a waterproof membrane. Fibreglass would not be my first choice for reasons of maintenance and heat.
My suggestion would be to use Duradek Vinyl, which has a 60-ml grade that qualifies as a roof membrane and is installed by professional contractors providing a fire-rated, building-code-approved roof deck system.
To begin, remove all the loose gravel from the roof and the perimeter flashing. To prepare for a flat sundeck surface, a sleeper joist system is required. Calculating the dimension of the sleeper joist will require taking a level off the top of the perimeter facing board and taking a measurement. Use 2x4 treated lumber at 16 inches on centre (shimming with treated cedar shingles where required) to give a slope to one or two sides to run water; or proper drains may be required to adapt to existing drains.
Around the perimeter, it's best to install 4x4 treated lumber to prepare for secure safety railings such as ProBuilt's Aluminum Do-It-Yourself Railings.
Finish surface with tongue-and-groove select fir plywood. Contact Duradek at 1-866-591-5594 and they will refer you to the appropriate installer in your area.
Album - Leaking flat roof turns into 900+ sq ft usable outdoor space
Apr 29, 2010
What was a tiny little walk out deck has become a beautiful roof deck. A great example of how to get the most out of your home while adding value.
Wouldn't you like to invite your friends over for dinner on you new roof deck overlooking the forest and the Wasatch Mountians?
Laying out the materials for a dry fit eliminates errors.
Adding slope manages the water flow off the roof into the gutter system.
Sanding the plywood surface helps to turn this roof into a "floor"
It was a mess, doing it right with Dekmax and Duradek means no worries for decades to come.
Look at the amount of room that was gained by using a walkable roof product!
The tar seaping out of the overlapped areas get on your shoes and ends up in the house.
You can see the rail at the bottom of the picture cut off the largest part of this flat roof. Since they had to fix a leaking roof anyway why not do it right and open up the whole room as an etertainment area?
Do it right the first time!
Apr 13, 2010
Although it is beautiful now, this awesome outdoor area had some serious issues. Unfortunatly these costly repairs would have been avoided with the proper system and professional installation. Originally done with tile a water leak into the living space below was the cause for repair. What was found is all too common and can be avioded.
The process that was used involved several different products and some did not follow the manufacturer's recomendations. The subfloor was OSB, ice & water shield, 1/4 inch fiberboard, thinset, then tile.
The picture to the right is a tile from the outer edge of the deck. You can see the tile and about 1/4 inch of thinset was used here.
In this picture you see another tile this one comes aproximatly ten feet from the above picture. What you see here is the dramtic change in thickness of the thinset and an additional inknown product. This was done in an effort to create the nessesary slope to drain the water from the deck surface. This is one of the errors in the installation process.
Tile, thinset and grout are not waterproof. Adding thicker layers does provide slope as you see it and with a level, but water is being absorbed into these materials and looking for an escape. This is a very common problem and can be very costly when failure occurs. When your project calls for tile / stone on an outdoor surface we recommend that you use only products that are fully warranteed over living space and comes with a roofing approval.
Here we have some pieces of the 1/4 inch fiber board that were used over the ice & water shield. When installing tile again we recommend using 1/2 inch cement board per the tile industry standards.
Here you can see the long, darker color piece on top of the larger one. The color difference is the amount of moisture in the longer piece. According to the label this product is moisture and mold resistant. Again the manufacture does not approve of this product being used in an outdoor application.
This is what was to be the waterproof material for this project. Once again it is not for use in a walkeable roof application. It is a deck we are talking about but, since it is over living space this is also a roof. As such a roofing product was needed to avoid these costly errors.
Look closely and you can see the roofing nails that were used to attach the sheets. Never a good idea to put holes into what you are trying to waterproof.
On the right there are visible signs of the water damage and what looks like an area where mold has begun to form. This home owner is fortunate that they are doing the repair now rather then later, this could have been much much worse.
Why choose a waterproof system? COST!
Feb 22, 2010
COST. That is the number one reason to consider Dekmax. Let me break it down for you with some samples and our experiences, ones that I am certain are similar to your own.Wood decks are one of the least expensive (that's why you see them all over the valley). They are also very needy decks, annual sanding, staining, repairing and while your doing all this the wood is continuing to rot. Even the screws that were used to put the deck together are rusting away and commonly break off when you try and remove them. It is a given, the deck is going to need costly repair. If you are relentless with the upkeep and maintenance you can buy some time.
We offer free dry space with every waterproof deck. It is a no brainer to make use of all the dry space you possible can. Seems like we are always looking for another place to store our stuff. Consider the amount of space you have under your deck. Most exterior decks around the valley are from 200 to 500 sq ft. that is roughly the size of a one and two car garage! Next time your getting in the car look around, would you like to get some more room for the car(s) and move that other stuff? Been talking about the need for a shed? Why take up space in the yard where the kids will play? Look at the room under your deck and consider making it waterproof and maintenance free while you simply enclose the space below.
Take that redwood deck and easily convert it to a smooth surface. Waterpoof it and then think of all the things you can do with your free time. First thing to do is start to figure out how smart you were to do the job with a product that will offer you so much more than just a deck. One initial cost and no annual work load and it goes on and on year after year for more than a decade. 
Most decks over living space these days have OSB on them, one reason. It is the least expensive available. But you can see what happens to it when it gets a little water on it, it is coming apart. If you are simply covering this up you are just delaying the inevitable, it will fail, and it will be expensive to repair. We understand you are shopping around for products as you should, just be sure you are looking at all the right things and comparing apples to apples. You can see our T.I.P.S from the website or do your own cost comparison at the local hardware store. Wood will be the least cost bit the most repair. Composites will be more expensive and laborious but still do nohting to protect the wood or anything below. Duradek is comparative in cost but far out lasts and offer so much more.
Time For Us To Give Back - You Can Win!!!
Feb 03, 2010
For years we have been listening to home owners that have water damages or are just plain tired of annually spending money on their deck.
It really can be heart wrenching to hear them tell how " they said it work" or "they told us it was good for at least fives years".
Then when the owner has water leaking into their home or a rotting old deck "they" are all gone.
We are giving away a new waterproof deck, flat roof, balcony or porch. All you need to do is Tell Us Your Story. From our website www.dekmax.com simply register to win and on April 15th we will award the prize to a deserving home owner. What so we want to hear in your story? What have you gone through over the past few years? Are you tired of sending xxx.xx$ every year on stain and then taking you valuable time to sand and stain the deck? Did you do the outdoor carpet idea only to find out the wood was rotting below? What caused the water leaking into your home? How many times have you gone through this process?
We want to find a deserving home owner and eliminate the frustrations and headaches once and for all. Our products have been around for more then thirty-six years and almost four warranty cycles. We know that even here in our tough climate one application is going to last well beyond ten years.
It would please us to no end to install their new waterproof deck and then watch them sit back, kick their feet up and relax.
Tiledek customer comments
Jan 27, 2010
Comments from a customer -My home was built in 1999, and the original decking was a solid surface produce called “deck-o-crete” or something. At the time, I was told that this was a popular and durable type of finish that my builder recommended. For about 4 or 5 years, I had relatively few issues with it. The only water issue I noticed was a leakage of water at the house/deck interface when a unusually large storm hit (1x or 2x in 5 years). The vinyl railing also seemed to be OK for a while.
Starting about 2005, the surface was beginning to fail…cracks developed, and got worse with the freeze/thaw cycles. Ultimately, a large windstorm pulled the vinyl rail off, and this coupled with many cracks and failure pockets led me to decide to redo the entire thing.
I went through many difference design concepts from a simply railing replacement, to a more glorified design with a deck cover, and enclosure underneath to form a sun/California type of room.
I decided on a framed/timber deck cover, with an enclosed sun room underneath to maximize our enjoyment and use of the areas. I wanted a slate-finish on top of the deck, so needed a very robust, water-proof, and suitable membrane to hold up to the harsh SLC, UT winters.
I researched many products, but settled on Tiledek. It seemed to be the best product out there that fit my needs and requirements. Also, having lived in Canada for many years, provided an extra sense of security, as this product’s origins seemed to come from this cold, harsh environment. I actually found Tiledek on the Internet originally, and this was the medium for my research and decision.
During installation, I was impressed with how durable and robust the product seemed. It was fairly easy to install, with the most time consuming and difficult part being the “welding” with the heat guns on the seams. Also, the seals around the posts and doors were a bit trickly, but Matt at Dekmax was extremely supportive, knowledgeable, and helped make sure everything was perfect. I was impressed by the amount of time and effort he spent with me getting the produce installed correctly.
The installation of the slate over Tiledek was very slick. I’ve laid a lot of tile and stone over the years, and I actually prefer laying it on Tiledek vs. even a normal install on backerboard or mortar composite. Due to my time constraints, the slate was installed about 2+ months after the Tiledek was installed, and I did not notice any adverse effects due to the duration it sat waiting for the slate to be put on.
The install of the Durarail railing was a bit more difficult and time consuming than I had anticipated. Handling and cutting of the long sections was tedious and not easy. Once this was up, however, the product seems very robust and strong.
Currently, I am working on finishing the rest of the enclosed space below the deck. There have been some strong storms come through, and the Tiledek has performed just fine.
I would recommend this product to anyone that is concerned about weather/water proofing their project, especially if tile or stone covering is needed. I have not come across a product yet that compares.
Thanks.
Todd
Waterproof decks, Do it Right the First Time
Jan 07, 2010
Many homes in Utah have beautiful views of the valleys, mountain ranges and just plain old spectacular scenery. The spring-to-fall climate is perfect for enjoying some down time, taking in the surroundings, spending some quality time with your family, relaxed, outside, in the fresh air, enjoying life – on your sundeck.
Unfortunately, for lots of people, the sundeck area is not the area of enjoyment and tranquility that some of us know. It is an area of maintenance and splinters and rotting wood and dangerous railings and…well the list goes on. If the area directly below the sundeck is over living space, there are usually issues about waterproofing – or the lack of it. Even if the sundeck is not over living space, if it is a carport, the space can’t be used for any kind of storage. In adverse weather, without appropriate waterproofing, the space is virtually useless.
Over the years, there have been very few products or systems available to cover the deck surface and have it meet the following criteria: be waterproof, allow walking, withstand barbeques, kids, dogs and just regular outdoor living AND still be attractive, all-in-one. The liquid applied goops are multi application systems. They are typically a single bland color and therefore have no attractive qualities. And the weather has to be almost perfect for each application, with a 24 hour cure time. The black rubber option is again, not very attractive, so it needs a different surface to beautify it. Now, the home owner is back into the maintenance of wood or pavers or ??
For years Utah residents have been searching for a true waterproofing product that opens up these outdoor living areas. A product that will function, has a warranty, is installed by trained professionals and looks good. Most options for waterproofing have failed in the past, thus leaving home owners with costly repairs and a poor opinion of waterproofing products and the whole concept of sundecks over living space. Then, in 2005, Dekmax introduced the area to Duradek.
The Duradek brands are not new. With more than three decades of proven service and over 150 million square feet of product installed, Duradek has become the “walkable roofing membrane” preferred and specified by architects. It is also recognized by engineers, inspectors and designers, as the appropriate choice. And since Dekmax began the distributorship four years ago it has become a very popular choice with builders, contractors and home owners.
So, what makes Duradek so different from other products trying to accomplish the same thing?
· With a 10 year warranty, Duradek has been through the warranty cycle many times over the course of its history. We have never had to replace material because of a manufacturers defect…ever!
· Duradek is a single ply PVC membrane that meets the appropriate building codes as a “walkable roofing membrane”. It also carries the ICC approval of a roofing membrane that allows pedestrian traffic. We are exactly what we say we are.
· Duradek is only installed by company trained contractors. In fact we do not sell Duradek to anyone who has not been trained – period.
· History tells us that in our climate you should expect fifteen to eighteen years of use with one application. Another benefit is that your structure will still be sound and secure – ready to accept a new Duradek application.
· Details, technical support, presentations and training all provided locally. With over 35 years of experience, Duradek has seen just about every kind of scenario and we have designed details and techniques to accommodate them all. And we are not shy to share these. A very intense 2 day training will teach installers how to handle most any waterproofing detail. But a close 2nd to the waterproofing is that the sundeck looks beautiful when the installation is complete.
· With more than 20 colors to choose from, Duradek can satisfy most any color scheme or designer objective. The choices are anything from solid colors to unique and interesting patterns.
Installation can be done year round in almost any weather condition. Prior to Dekmax coming onto the scene, Duradek had flown company trainers to Utah for training and installations. There are single family and multi-unit projects that are now over sixteen years old and still going strong.
One of the aspects that makes Duradek the leading choice with multi-unit properties is that it is long lasting, low maintenance and easily repairable should it ever need it. Let’s face it. When was the last time you had problems on a deck that was a simple repair rather than a drawn out costly mess? Typically, if there is an issue with the material being cut or damaged the problem spot can be located quickly and the repair takes only minutes.
Though our strength is working over living space, anytime you have exposure to the elements you will have a higher risk of water damages. Simply covering an exposed deck all but eliminates the potential for water damages. By doing so you can cost effectively make the area under the deck more attractive and useable. Add some lighting and enclose the area – now you have a completely enclosed storage are for anything from food stuffs to camping gear and ski equipment.
Always wanted to use tile outdoors but knew better? Now you can with Duradek’s latest product “Tiledek”. Tiledek is made specifically for tile applications and still covered by our ten year warranty. Through years of research and cooperation with the tile industry we can offer the same well proven membrane but with a fabric covering designed to work aggressively with the thin-sets used in tile installations. This will give you the ultimate waterproofing membrane coupled with the exquisite styling that only tile can provide.
So, reconsider your thoughts on sundecks. There is a way to waterproof and beautify your outdoor living area.
Unfortunately, for lots of people, the sundeck area is not the area of enjoyment and tranquility that some of us know. It is an area of maintenance and splinters and rotting wood and dangerous railings and…well the list goes on. If the area directly below the sundeck is over living space, there are usually issues about waterproofing – or the lack of it. Even if the sundeck is not over living space, if it is a carport, the space can’t be used for any kind of storage. In adverse weather, without appropriate waterproofing, the space is virtually useless.
Over the years, there have been very few products or systems available to cover the deck surface and have it meet the following criteria: be waterproof, allow walking, withstand barbeques, kids, dogs and just regular outdoor living AND still be attractive, all-in-one. The liquid applied goops are multi application systems. They are typically a single bland color and therefore have no attractive qualities. And the weather has to be almost perfect for each application, with a 24 hour cure time. The black rubber option is again, not very attractive, so it needs a different surface to beautify it. Now, the home owner is back into the maintenance of wood or pavers or ??
For years Utah residents have been searching for a true waterproofing product that opens up these outdoor living areas. A product that will function, has a warranty, is installed by trained professionals and looks good. Most options for waterproofing have failed in the past, thus leaving home owners with costly repairs and a poor opinion of waterproofing products and the whole concept of sundecks over living space. Then, in 2005, Dekmax introduced the area to Duradek.
The Duradek brands are not new. With more than three decades of proven service and over 150 million square feet of product installed, Duradek has become the “walkable roofing membrane” preferred and specified by architects. It is also recognized by engineers, inspectors and designers, as the appropriate choice. And since Dekmax began the distributorship four years ago it has become a very popular choice with builders, contractors and home owners.
So, what makes Duradek so different from other products trying to accomplish the same thing?
· With a 10 year warranty, Duradek has been through the warranty cycle many times over the course of its history. We have never had to replace material because of a manufacturers defect…ever!
· Duradek is a single ply PVC membrane that meets the appropriate building codes as a “walkable roofing membrane”. It also carries the ICC approval of a roofing membrane that allows pedestrian traffic. We are exactly what we say we are.
· Duradek is only installed by company trained contractors. In fact we do not sell Duradek to anyone who has not been trained – period.
· History tells us that in our climate you should expect fifteen to eighteen years of use with one application. Another benefit is that your structure will still be sound and secure – ready to accept a new Duradek application.
· Details, technical support, presentations and training all provided locally. With over 35 years of experience, Duradek has seen just about every kind of scenario and we have designed details and techniques to accommodate them all. And we are not shy to share these. A very intense 2 day training will teach installers how to handle most any waterproofing detail. But a close 2nd to the waterproofing is that the sundeck looks beautiful when the installation is complete.
· With more than 20 colors to choose from, Duradek can satisfy most any color scheme or designer objective. The choices are anything from solid colors to unique and interesting patterns.
Installation can be done year round in almost any weather condition. Prior to Dekmax coming onto the scene, Duradek had flown company trainers to Utah for training and installations. There are single family and multi-unit projects that are now over sixteen years old and still going strong.
One of the aspects that makes Duradek the leading choice with multi-unit properties is that it is long lasting, low maintenance and easily repairable should it ever need it. Let’s face it. When was the last time you had problems on a deck that was a simple repair rather than a drawn out costly mess? Typically, if there is an issue with the material being cut or damaged the problem spot can be located quickly and the repair takes only minutes.
Though our strength is working over living space, anytime you have exposure to the elements you will have a higher risk of water damages. Simply covering an exposed deck all but eliminates the potential for water damages. By doing so you can cost effectively make the area under the deck more attractive and useable. Add some lighting and enclose the area – now you have a completely enclosed storage are for anything from food stuffs to camping gear and ski equipment.
Always wanted to use tile outdoors but knew better? Now you can with Duradek’s latest product “Tiledek”. Tiledek is made specifically for tile applications and still covered by our ten year warranty. Through years of research and cooperation with the tile industry we can offer the same well proven membrane but with a fabric covering designed to work aggressively with the thin-sets used in tile installations. This will give you the ultimate waterproofing membrane coupled with the exquisite styling that only tile can provide.
So, reconsider your thoughts on sundecks. There is a way to waterproof and beautify your outdoor living area.
Problems with Liquid Applied and “Roll-Ons”
Dec 14, 2009
Here we have a beautiful home with a deck in front overlooking downtown Salt Lake City and the valley as well as a more private deck out the back.
The home owner had been experiencing water leaks for several years and never found a good solution.
It seemed every year or two they were spending more money on the next best thing that came along.
I could hear the frustration in their voices as the described the events. These decks were designed to be an addition to the usable space of the home, opening up the outdoors and providing a place to relax and enjoy. Rather they became a burden, a money trap and not even being used.
These pictures are from the last attempt at waterproofing the decks. Some type of liquid applied product was used and it looks to have some sand added to it for slip resistance. There are a couple of problems here that the home owner may have uncovered with some effort. A large portion of the decking is over living space (that’s why the leaking was costing so much) and according to building code the waterproofing needs to be 60mil thickness at a minimum. So the question that came to mind was “How do you measure the thickness of a liquid rolled on? When the liquid dry’s it becomes hard and since this is a wood surface it will have movement. Wood shrinks, expands and contracts, and is subject to pressure from the home settling. So when that happens what is the result on the applied product? If it has dried on the wood surface it will fail simply because it can not “move” with the wood.
Installation from a trained professional also reduces silly mistakes likes these.
Notice the brick, the installer simply “painted” the lower brick and decided that was waterproof.
The same was done for the bottom of the railing around both decks. This is an actual hole between the brick and the door, you can see where the “waterproofing has peeled away.
There are plenty of products out there. Home owners need to be aware of the proper questions to ask and do some homework to be certain you will not end up with a situation like the one described above. You can see our T.I.P.S at www.dekmax,com or at a minimum you should request a copy of the ICC ES report for the product you are considering. You can look yourself at www.icc-es.org
Warranty’s are good and are a common question. Check the number of years they have been in business versus the number of warranty cycles they have been through.
There is nothing wrong with asking about their history.
How many recalls?
Manufacturing defects?
What is the quality assurance program?
A home owner once asked me if they should just trust their contractor? Yes you should and you should ask any question you want because they should be able to answer it clearly in terms that you understand. They may be doing the work for you but it is still your project, your home and your money. Invest it don’t just spend it.
A home owner once asked me if they should just trust their contractor? Yes you should and you should ask any question you want because they should be able to answer it clearly in terms that you understand. They may be doing the work for you but it is still your project, your home and your money. Invest it don’t just spend it.
Why Others Fail
Oct 29, 2009
We are often asked when meeting with a customer "What about this stuff? Is it as good? " We are not experts on all the other products that are out there but I encourage you to follow these T.I.P.S. to avoid a mistake that could be very costly.Homeowner Tips
Consider remodeling or improving your home an investment – and determine the value you are adding. Numerous products claim they can waterproof, but only a few meet the IBC requirements for a roof system that allows pedestrian traffic. Before buying, be sure to address these topics:
Training
· How were they trained?
· Look for documented, supplier-provided training + hands-on experience.
· Do they have local support for technical, detail, or planning concerns?
· Can they produce the written details for any portion of the work that you request?
· Avoid on-the-job experience – their experience shouldn't come at your cost.
Investigate
· What am I buying? Is the product being used for its intended purpose?
· Does it come with a company-backed warranty and what are the exclusions?
· What is the company history?
· When waterproofing over a living space, always investigate the risk of product failure.
Price
· Is the price broken down so I can see exactly what I am getting?
· When comparing prices, ensure that the products are comparable.
· The cost to maintain and repair should be included.
· What is the cost if there is a leak? Repairs can cost tens of thousands of dollars.
· Be cautious – you may indeed get what you pay for.
Serviceability
How durable is the product – and what if I want to replace it or make a change?
Is it repaired easily?
What is the expected lifetime?
How long does it take to install and how soon can it be used?
For new construction, who can help you with your design in order to reduce costs?
Waterproofing Roofing Membrane for Exterior Bonded Tiles
Oct 13, 2009
There is nothing like the look of tile or slate on that outdoor deck. Unfortunately, the beauty is soon forgotten if water makes its way into your home from the deck, thorugh the tile. It is then clear that most of the attention was given to the appearance rather than proper waterproofing techniques, when the tile was first installed. The resulting repairs can be intrusive and expensive when the cost of replacing the tile is considered.
This is a common story. There seems to be a lack of understanding within the building community about the proper waterproofing of decks, balconies and roof decks that are overlaid with porcelain tile, slate or some of the other natural stone finishes.
A failed tile deck or balcony is a common occurrence. There are two main types of failures; problems with the tile overlay such as eruptions or cracking and problems with the structure such as leaks into the building and rot. In most cases, the source of the failure is the lack of understanding of the properties and the limitations of the materials being used:
1. Inadequate waterproofing: There are many 'waterproof products' yet they are being installed incorrectly. A knowledgeable contractor is more important that a good product. Poor waterproofing can have far more expensive consequences than just repairing the tile if it involves rot repairs from a water leak.
2. Waterproofing membrane which is soft allows too much deflection: Any acceptable material must be firm enough under all temperatures to support the tile overlay. Many decks are waterproofed with 'Modified Bitumen' roofing membranes that get soft in hot weather which may allow tile to crack. Any suitable product will be tested with a Robinson Floor tester to meet ASTM C-627
3. Tile is installed with no provision of expansion: There is a recommendation by the tile association of expansion joints every 8-10 feet in any direction. If the tile has no room to expand, tiles will crack or lift.
waterproofing membrane which allows too much deflections.
A properly installed waterproof tiled deck would look like this:
Outdoor living space adds value to your home!
Oct 13, 2009
So many of us have
decks, flat roofs, balconies and porches that are done like everyone else in the
valley.
For years a wood plank deck was the thing to do, mainly because it
is the least expensive.
Soon the excitement of the new deck turns into a
annual maintenance and repair headache.
The resulting costs and time can
be frustrating and replacement is inevitable.
What's the next best
thing?
You can get the same general appearance of a wood deck by using
composite materials.
These are easy to come by from name brands or
even the local Home Depot and Lowe's for the do it yourself-er.
The problem
is the same but you have bought some time: the wood supports and trusses are
rotting.
True the composite materials are waterproof and they will not
rot.
They will fade, can splinter, stain or discolor and water will leak
through them just like the old deck.
Again to by some time pressure
treated wood can be used or required and the chemicals that are used will add a
little time.
While those chemicals are being washed into the ground over
the years they to will begin to rot and need to be replaced.
Both of these and
others may be the "popular" thing but what do they do for the resale value of
your home?
Do you look at the decks, flat roofs, balconies and patios that
are in need of repair as investments for your home?
Will the products
you choose add value to your home?
Just for a minute
think of these areas as outdoor living space, not much different than your
living room or family room.
Would like to have an area that can provide
you with the opportunity to entertain and relax while taking advantage of our
awesome Utah views?
With the more than twenty Duradek colors and designs
any outdoor area can be converted to a long lasting, low maintenance
entertaining area.
Unlike the previous decks this meets code as a roofing
membrane so go ahead and take advantage of the space underneath.
Storage?
Now you have the
space.
Place for the hot tub so you don't get cold water
dripping on you? Perfect.
Get
all the stuff out of the garage so you can use it for the car.
Great idea.
This is where your investment
begins to pay off.
Now the area underneath become usable space, completely
dry and ready for you to take advantage of however you like.
By using this
process you have made excellent use of your time and money so have some
friends and family over and entertain them in your new outdoor living
area.
While they are wowed with the changes you made you can relax knowing
that your annual maintenance will be a with a hose washing of the deck.
Don't worry about the snow and freeze thaw; rock salt, ice melt, shovel it, no
problem.
Now you are thinking
about the cost of something like this. It's OK we think about it too.
The
old fashion wood deck would be the least expensive and you can do it
yourself.
The composite materials are more expensive and again if you
think your up to it you can do it yourself.
The same area done with a
membrane which offers you so much more has a material cost that would be less
than the do it yourself composite choice!
BUT, this is not a do it
yourself project.
Only professional company trained installers are
used.
You are no longer simply building a deck area you are investing in
your home, most will agree this is not the time to try and cut the initial
amount you spend.
Doing it the right way the first time will provide you
with well over a decade of use and you are saving the annual repair and
maintenance cost of wood decks.
When was the last time you walked outside sat down and relaxed with no deck worries?
When was the last time you walked outside sat down and relaxed with no deck worries?
Adding Value to Your Roof!
Sep 30, 2009
This home in
Holladay, Utah has a flat roof in the rear with a fantastic view of the mountains. The
home owner needed to repair a leak that was causing damages to the living space
below.
Rather than simply replace the old roofing system that had failed,
they searched for a long term solution that would also allow them to turn this
area into an outdoor living space.
Duradek's membrane meets building code
as a roofing material
but is unique in that it also allows pedestrian
traffic, perfect for opening up decks, patios, balconies and flat roofs to make
them beautiful outdoor entertainment areas.
Tar leaves unattractive finish on fascia
What a mess! Removal of failed system
Wroght iron rail system with tar at base
Roof turned into usable space
Sanding to remove any imperfections to finished flooring
AC unit re-installed with properly waterproofed platform
Proper slope means good water management
Durarail replaces wrought iron
By using the Duradek
and Durarail products this home owner has fixed the leaky roof problem and added
significant value to the home by adding almost a thousand square feet of outdoor
useable space.
When it comes to your home and property, don't settle for less than the best.
Request a quote from our trained installers or contact us anytime for details.
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Customer Testimonials
Thank you Dekmax! Matt and Lorenzo did such a wonderful job at our house. They took our old torn apart porch and made it the pride and joy of the entrance to our home. The professional attitudes and the great product they deliver; make this company the place to go to if you need a deck or porch done.
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